Okay, for some reason this post scheduled itself prematurely or something. Whatever. Anyway.
I could give you all the boring background, but it all boils down to choosing between two labs. I'm going to commit at least two semesters to someone at school (and maybe a summer). I only need one more semester to get done with my major requirements, but fuck those, I need to contribute something to a project and actually get something out of it. New knowledge, techniques, valuable skills, good rec letters, dare-I-dream-maybe-if-I'm-a-good-girl-a-paper, whatever. And three months ain't gonna cut it. Though I'd like to work for two PI's because I'm crazy like that, I can't because I have "classes" or something. Soooo here are the players:
Dr. X. I've worked with him before, and I like him. He's "real," for want of a better word. Not annoyingly blunt, but pragmatic and honest about his lab and projects. He's not hella old, but he knows how things work and is great about advice and state-of-the-field type stuff. And for some reason thinks I'm smart or have that po'tenshul thing. When we talk about my coming back to his lab, he relates things back to my stated goals and tries to get a feel for where I'm wanting to go. I feel he has my best interests at heart. X's former grad students have apparently gone on to become crazy smart Ivy League Vulcans-- seriously, they are very successful men and women. Plus he is awesome at the bench and not at all hesitant to correct a bitch.
Then there's Dr. Y-- never worked with him, but the guy intrigues me. He's relatively young faculty, did a short stint at a biotech giant, is very enthusiastic, and does work that's similar to Dr. X's. An undergrad in Y's lab is publishing, and I know for a fact that that kid is a dumbass. Or maybe the dude just puts his Dumb Hat on in class and is secretly a whiz at molec bio. In any case, at least I know Y lets his undergrads actually do stuff.
Although X and Y do similar work, X seems more adventurous and does not appear to have a cohesive "research program" per se. I would even submit, with all of my Yoda-like undergraduate seasoning, that Dr. X thinks bigger than Dr. Y. He chooses projects with broad biotech/pharma applications, whereas Dr. Y is more typical of the PI's around here in that he has sort of pigeonholed himself a bit. Of course, that may not be all bad because he's chosen a rather uber-biomedical subspecialty and may have more steady funding than X (not that I can find any complete info about that online GRRRRRRRRR).
So all things considered, you might think I am going to sign up to work with X in the fall. I dunno, though. He may not get funding for this Awesome Thing We Want To Do, and we won't know until January. Still, I have been assured that if I want it, the project will be my "baby" and I can start now and make some serious headway in a year's time. It's a collaborative thing, but the biochem/molecular biology aspect will be handled by us exclusively. So in that sense, he's right in that I'll be representing our lab's contribution to the project. There is plenty of other stuff going on at X's that I could get into if the funding doesn't come through. I kinda wish I could tell you guys what we want to do, but apparently this is one of those "will self-destruct in ten seconds" things. :/
So my problem is, Y seems way too interesting and I want to kind of explore my options. He should be back in town this week; we'll definitely have a chat then.
Before anyone tries to tell me I'm thinking about this too hard-- SHADDAP. It's my life, my time and I want to spend it in a way that's going to give me maximal gain. You know, because I'm "career-oriented." Ugh. Well, I'm gonna go get "Diet Coke-oriented." :)
Saturday, July 26, 2008
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6 comments:
I'd go with Dr. X (if only because it's conjuring images of Patrick Stewart... mmmm).
Seriously, that sounds like a tough choice. Going with the one you know and have worked with before seems like it might get you a little farther in the long run, especially if you get to do your baby project (ok, that sounds weird... like baby donuts... yummmm). It could also show loyalty and willing longtermedness (shush-it, its a word, so sayeth the English major) to any future employers and whatnot.
However, being a risk-taker and jumping into something new and zazzy shows willingness to think outside of the box and all of that stuff.
And Eff anyone who says that you're thinking about this too hard. Because you're not. So there.
Sorry I missed your call earlier. I was at dinner in Cuthbert. Bah.
"herp me"? Does that mean "put me in my reptile survey" or "give me herpes" or....?
It's a hard choice and we do not have enough info and no way to get "a vibe" from X and Y and compare.
From your post, X sounds better on paper (Y sounds like a good place to do a postdoc, not PhD), but you are the only one who can really make this choice.
Coturnix:
Sometimes I lapse into that Team America/Kim Jong-ilspeak... :)
I wish I could go into detail about the projects I'd be working on, but it's one of those will-destruct-in-10-seconds things and I don't want to get in trouble. X does sound better; I think I am just wanting to branch out and get to know more people. X's grant application includes a request for summer undergrad $$$, so I might end up getting paid at some point.
I'll figure it out this week after meeting with Y. I'm just being an over-analytical dweeb again. :)
Janny:
Patrick Stewart, eh? That would make the choice a hell of a lot easier. Derishus...
Go with the one you feel more comfortable with. But if that is equal, go with the one with the better track record for training students.
I speak from bitter experience here... wonderful, caring, and intelligent young faculty will drop you like a bowl of moldy tofu if they think they can get more data out of someone else (or by buying equipment!) for less money. Particularly (but not exclusively) pre-tenure.
I think older faculty, who do not feel their success is tenuous, can afford to be more patient as long as you work hard.
That's my $0.02 of gross generalization sterotyping for the day.
On another note, you say you can't look up their funding on the Intertubes... but I'm sure you know about CRISP, right?
That's how I look up funding info.
Although, if a lot of either of their funding is from corporations, you might see if your research and development office puts out a list of who gets funding from what sources... it can't hurt to ask, and nongovernmental stuff shows up on that list.
CRISP isn't much of a help for these two. I'm gonna see what I can dig up at school. Thanks!
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